March 2025 - Balloons, new hardware and protests, oh my!
Ep. 03

March 2025 - Balloons, new hardware and protests, oh my!

Episode description

From Semtech’s new LR2021 LoRa transceiver announcement to the Monticello Council’s consideration of a Meshtastic-based emergency communication system, there are plenty of exciting updates. We also discuss the latest firmware releases focused on bug fixes and new hardware support. Other highlights include new low-cost hardware options like the Seeed XIAO kits, community projects, and social posts, including a high-altitude balloon launch and nodes deployed at protests. Tune in to get the latest news and hear about innovative uses of Meshtastic technology.

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Timestamps

  • 00:00 Introduction and Overview
  • 00:19 Latest Headline News
  • 04:58 Firmware - What’s up with the 2.6 series?
  • 08:42 New Hardware!
  • 16:15 Community Highlights and Social Posts
  • 25:27 Conclusion and Call to Action

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0:00

It is that time again, another month's voice of the mesh.

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I'm your host Jon, and we're here to talk about everything Meshtastic

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that happened in March, 2025.

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Normally I'd start off with some news from the Meshtastic blog, but it seems like

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the team is heads down getting 2.6 from the tech preview towards a stable beta.

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We'll talk about that in a bit.

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But first, let's cover some other news headlines that I've

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found around the interwebs.

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First thing in the news is Semtech, the makers of the popular SX 1262

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LoRa Transceiver, have announced a new LR 2021 LoRa plus transceiver.

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It got covered by a few news sites and it was certainly posted about in

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the subreddit in large part because as part of the press release, they noted

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that the transceiver supports LoRa Gen four, Amazon Sidewalk, and Meshtastic.

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Amongst other tools and technologies it supports.

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So this looks like it could possibly be the successor to said popular SX 1262.

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Based on the press release, there are a few major changes of notes compared to

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the older chip, and that would be first off, a broader frequency range support.

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The SX 1262 is sub gigahertz only, so it tops out at about 930 or so megahertz.

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Versus the new LR 2021 supporting up to 2.4 gigahertz IE, the same

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band as you find wifi and Bluetooth, which is also an unlicensed band.

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Now, 2.4 gigahertz will allow for a higher throughput, but at a much shorter range.

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So this will have maybe less use in Meshtastic.

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But it'll be interesting to see what happens with it.

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The LR 2021 does support higher data rates.

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It also has support for more modulation schemes.

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Though there is slightly less sensitivity and a slightly higher

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current draw, and it has the same 22 DBM transmit as the older chip does.

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Keep in mind that.

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No one has one of these yet that has commented publicly, so we have

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no idea about how it'll work in the real world . For end consumers.

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End users.

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This is a little bit like the announcement of a new processor from Intel or AMD.

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It's cool, but it will likely be a while before we see this

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chip in Meshtastic devices.

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Next in the news is a story from WTXL of Tallahassee, Tennessee, and the article

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title is monticello Council considers new emergency communication system proposal.

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Now, since you're listening to this on voice of the mesh, you will not be shocked

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to know why this is of interest to us.

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The subheading reads, the Jefferson County Community Emergency Response Team aims

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to enhance communications during crisis.

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A new system called Meshtastic would ensure first responders stay

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connected when it matters most.

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I think the funniest part of the, this article though, I suggest you read it.

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I'll, I'll just quote.

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He explained how these small solar powered devices, which cost about a hundred

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dollars each, are attached by drone to the top of water towers throughout the county.

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And I just laughed when I read this because if you're part of a local

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mesh, you have probably had someone discuss the concept of attaching

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a Meshtastic radio to a drone.

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Then flying it up somewhere, be it on the top of a light pole or a

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water tower or something else and surreptitiously leave it there.

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Maybe most local meshes are not doing this in a approved fashion,

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but it's just really funny that this CERT plans to do exactly that.

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I look forward to hearing more about how their deployment goes.

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And I'll, I'll keep an eye on this story.

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And finally in the news is something that's fairly common, but I

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thought it was worth calling out.

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The Fayette County Amateur Radio Club hosted a meeting featuring Meshtastic,

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and this has happened in many places.

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I know of several, at least three or four different Bay Area amateur radio

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clubs that have hosted similar meetings about Meshtastic and had presentations

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given to their members about what Meshtastic is and how to use it.

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I gave one of these presentations myself to a local amateur radio club.

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But I think this is a great example and it just comes up because their

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site showed up on my news feeds.

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This is a great way to expand your local mesh.

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If you don't have a lot of Meshtastic usage in your area, find your local hams.

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Find your local amateur radio club.

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They probably will be interested.

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It runs along the same lines.

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There's a heavy overlap between amateur radio operators and

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Meshtastic, so they are a great place.

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To find more people to help plant nodes.

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In the next section, we're gonna talk about the firmware.

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There have been four firmware releases in the last 30 days,

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and that would be 2.61 alpha.

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2.62, 2.63 and 2.64.

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And normally I talk about each release separately, but since the current

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2.6 line is more working on stability than features, I figured I'd just

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talk about them as an entire group.

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Keeping in mind that while 2.6 is out of technical preview, it's still a

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very rough around the edges, alpha.

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If you want a stable experience, please wait for the beta.

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All of these four releases are heavy on bug fixes.

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There's just bug fixes after bug fixes.

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They're doing little tweaks and fixes and optimizations for the

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new 2.6 features like the New Ink hud, and the new Meshtastic ui.

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My hope is that when the beta rolls out, it will be a really

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smooth and good experience.

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If you're looking for stability, wait for that beta.

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As exciting as the new 2.6 features might be if you have upgraded or

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do plan to upgrade, do remember that it will wipe your device.

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Beyond all the other major features of 2.6 that have been talked about in the past.

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What notable items are in these for more releases?

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First is support for a bunch of new hardware and that includes the Ebyte

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E 77 dev kit, the Seeed XIAO NRF 52 kit, the mesh Toad, USB LoRa board,

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the Elec Crow, think node M1, and M2.

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And several of these I'm gonna talk about in the new hardware

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segment in just a moment.

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There's also support for a number of new sensors, including the LTR

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390 ultraviolet sensor, DPS310 High Accuracy Barometer added support for

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the rain gauge data from the already supported Ecowitt WS 85 weather station.

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Support for the Healthtech HRI-3621 Industrial sensor Hub.

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Finally, the LS20031 GPS receiver, like I said, a ton of new sensor support.

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The final item that really caught my eye was one noted line around

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wifi OTA or over the air updates.

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There's not a lot of details today, but it looks like there may be a possible future

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where there is support for doing IP based.

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Updates of ESP 32 devices.

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So if you are putting a node up on the roof on top of a building somewhere

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where it's generally difficult to access, one of the biggest problems

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about Meshtastic today is that the firmware's moving very fast and updating

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that firmware on those inaccessible nodes is challenging to say the least.

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This may be a solution because your node is presumably already on the network.

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So wifi, OTA or IP based OTA will allow you to update it remotely.

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That being said, if you are putting a node where it's less accessible but has

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regular power, I would strongly recommend going to take a look at the Femto Fox Pro.

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I talked about it last month.

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I had one at that point in time.

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It's now been installed on my roof.

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Specifically so that I don't have to climb up there and plug in

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the USB cable to my radio to get it updated on a regular basis.

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But in addition to that, I have two more sitting on my desk.

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I'm not sure what I'm going to use them for, but they are just such great little

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devices for a long-term installs that I couldn't pass up getting a few more.

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So in the new hardware segment, we have a bunch of items obviously

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to talk about for hardware.

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I'm gonna start with the Seeed XIAO series.

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There's actually two different units here.

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The XIAO ESP 32 S3 and weo weo, WIO, SX 1262 Kit.

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And the second one is the exact same thing, except it uses an

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NRF 52 chip instead of an ESP.

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Now, the ESP 32 edition has been around for a few months, but it seems like

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they're just starting to become regularly available whereas the NRF edition is

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brand new and being NRF based is going to be significantly more battery friendly.

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Both devices are the same form factor.

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They're about thumbnail sized.

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They will be great for little tiny nodes that you wanna hide in all

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sorts of little random places.

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The XIAO series, I don't know if it's XIAO or WIO, but that series

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of devices from Seeed has a series of shields available for purchase that.

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Hooks up to accessories and grove ports and whatnot.

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But the biggest thing about these is that they are probably

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the cheapest possible Meshtastic radio node that you can get today.

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The XIAO ESP 32 S3 kit is $10, and the NRF 52 kit is $14.

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I will say based on some reviews online and simply what to expect

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out of a $10 kit, the antenna is probably not the greatest.

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If you just want to use this for playing with a couple of nodes around

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your home, then that'll be fine.

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But if you actually want something that.

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Is a good strong node for repeating, for hiding places in the solar node somewhere.

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Really expanding the mesh.

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Get a better antenna.

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You can get half decent antennas on Amazon for a few bucks.

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It is really not expensive to buy a decent 3db antenna.

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The second piece of hardware.

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We're talking about this month is actually not a Meshtastic device, but you'll

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understand it's the Lily Go T deck Pro.

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Now, because the T deck and the T deck plus were Meshtastic devices,

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everyone assumed that the T Deck Pro would be a Meshtastic device also.

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It looks somewhat similar to the previous T deck.

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It has the same form factor, but this time it uses an E ink display for better

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battery life, but unfortunately still uses an ESP 32 and they combine that

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only with a 1500 milliamp hour battery.

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Likely it has not the greatest battery life.

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Maybe a day if you're lucky, but probably 12 hours at most at this point in time.

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It's not a supported Meshtastic device other than the fact

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that it does have a LoRa chip.

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It also has 4G.

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So this feels like it's an attempt at something more akin to an UN

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phone where it's a not exactly a phone, but still in that same realm.

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I'm not entirely sure what LilyGo's target market is for it, but I look forward to

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seeing what people do with it being ein.

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It would use the ink hud, so maybe it won't be too bad for Meshtastic.

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Maybe it'll be built in portable MQTT uplink device.

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Who knows?

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The next on the list for new hardware is the Rak Wireless Wis

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Mesh repeater system with solar panel and high capacity battery IP 67.

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This is a $300 all-in-one solar node.

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Now, before you freak out, this is actually an excellent price

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for a business or a municipality.

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Rak advertises it as professional grade, and I would have to agree

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yes, A DIY solar node is cheaper.

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There is no doubt about that.

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You can build a really quite good solar node on your own for

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probably half that price, but if you are a business, a municipality,

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maybe you are that CERT team.

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From the news segment and you just need certified professional devices that are

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ready to go, that are IP 67 that come with a warranty that come with a company

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backing them in order to get them past maybe, a city or county inspectors.

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This is a really good option and it's really not that expensive for,

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again, a business or municipality.

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If you like the idea of a solar node and don't wanna spend that much money,

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there have been an absolute ton of solar nodes posted on Reddit this month.

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Plenty of people showing off the cool things that they have done, the the

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different ideas, the different takes on it, how they're doing it, what hardware

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to use, and how much it's costing them.

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So if you want a solar node that's professional.

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You've got a good option for that now, and if you just want a DIY node to

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sit on your roof like I do, ah, you can do something for half the price

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and throw it in an ammo box and use a sealed lead acid battery instead.

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Finally, in the new hardware category, we have the Elecrow

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M1 and M2, starting with the M1.

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This is a $40 device.

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It's NRF 52 based and uses the SX 1262 LoRa module.

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It has an e ink display, a rotary switch, 1200 milliamp power

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battery, GPS and real-time clock.

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It looks like a tiny walkie-talkie.

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It gives me lily go t echo vibes.

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Maybe built a little bit more tactical, hardcore.

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If you get the case without the case, it's a very competitive.

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Almost ready to go device.

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$40 is equivalent to the T 1000 E, though the T 1000 E is

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of course coming with a case.

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This M1 possibly only downside is that the case is $18.

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So buying it already to go with the case brings the price up to almost $60 USD,

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which is steep for a case if you ask me.

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I will say that based on what they have there and their own claims 48

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hour battery life seems entirely reasonable for this device.

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And it seems like it'll be a pretty good option for a everyday carry node.

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Now, for the Elecrow M2 this is a completely different take.

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It's $22.

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It uses an ESP 32 within SX 1262.

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It has an OLED display and only a 1000 mah battery.

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It is similar in style to the M1 but again, there's no GPS.

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There's no real time clock.

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It's only gonna have a battery life if I did the math correctly

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of a maybe seven hours if you keep the screen off the entire time.

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So this is clearly targeting the more cheap and cheerful people, the ones

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who want a different option than a Heltech V3 for really cheap entry.

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But again, we just talked about the Seeed XIAO kits, which are even cheaper.

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You could go either way.

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These are, to my knowledge, the first devices from Elecrow.

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So it's an interesting entrance into the market for sure.

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Finally, we get into the social posts for the month.

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The first highlight is a little bit of self-promotion.

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The San Francisco bay Area mesh user group did a live stream of a synchronized,

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dual Meshtastic, high altitude balloon launch, or at least that was the plan.

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One balloon went up relatively on time.

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It went to an altitude of just over 30 kilometers or 100,000 feet in altitude.

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It had two Meshtastic radios on board.

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One Heltech V3 with the Geiger counter and one Rak wireless wis block.

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The two different radios was because one was operating on medium slow

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and one was operating on long fast.

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Just as a fun factoid, the Geiger counter hit a maximum of two microsievert an hour.

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For context, a dental x-ray is five microsievert.

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This balloon was recovered.

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Unfortunately the second balloon ended up going up six

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hours late, and it was leaking.

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And they had to strip off basically everything for

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payload because of the leak.

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So it didn't last that long, so it only turned out to be one Meshtastic balloon.

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This was streamed on my channel on YouTube.

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I was the orchestrator of the, the live stream, though I had nothing to do with

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the actual balloon launches themselves.

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So if you're interested, the entire unabridged nine hour

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live stream is available.

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At some point in time, I will put out a more condensed highlight reel.

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From Reddit, we have a post by the ORI of self titled, deployed my

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first 3D printed, pole mounted, direct attach station G two today.

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As noted, it's basically an entirely 3D printed case that mounted directly

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to the pole in a very round fashion.

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It was an interesting and different design that I had not seen before.

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And this user lives in Florida, so they were designing their node pole

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set up with hurricanes in mind.

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What would be best able to handle high winds without failure?

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It just goes to show that you can build a mesh for your emergencies in advance,

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designing for your particular needs and use cases, whether that happens to be

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earthquakes or fires, although I don't know of any fire rated Meshtastic radios.

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So maybe keep them somewhere where they won't get burned but hurricanes as well.

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Another post by mam Persat titled Went to Meshtastic presentation at local ham club.

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Guy asked anyone live on a hill and I live on a hill.

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He gave me a custom made solar and powered rack chipset node.

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I put it on a poll.

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I am now mesh and just like I was saying in the new segment.

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This is a great way to plan to node grow mash Talk to your local ham community.

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It's a great place to not only find like-minded people, but as someone

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at their ham club realized it's a great way to find people with

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geographically advantageous locations because at the end of the day geography

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is probably going to make the most difference for your mesh success.

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If you're just getting started, it's all about geography.

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The next Reddit post was by z Miguel titled Meshtastic 2.6, map

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Titles with Higher Zoom Levels.

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If you're not aware, the new Meshtastic user interface that comes out with 2.6.

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When you use it on a T deck, there is a map page, but it is blank by default.

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It is just dots around you.

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But you can stick map tile images on a micro SD card and into the T deck

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so that you actually have a map.

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The Meshtastic instructions do not contain particularly detailed maps, though,

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because I believe they're the entire globe and they want to keep the size pretty low.

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So z Miguel has posted a breakdown by geography and the

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size required for each geography.

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So continental United States Europe, Asia, et cetera.

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And the size is required.

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So if you're looking for map tiles with a little bit more detail to them

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this is a great post to chase down for your T deck or similar devices

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running the new user interface

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Next from Reddit was not from the Meshtastic.

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Subreddit but actually r/cyberdeck and it was posted by TER Anomalous one and the

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title was Mesh Deck I made for Meshtastic Remote Administration, deployment,

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maintenance and firmware recovery.

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It's also a toolbox.

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It was in fact a very cool looking 3D printed toolbox.

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He includes a cheap Android tablet, a Rak Wis block.

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All the tools and gadgets and wiring that you would need to do maintenance

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on mesh nodes and also, connect to them.

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Do firmware updates for this.

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Use an Android tablet is a really great option for something small that

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allow you to recover devices that have otherwise entered in unexpected state.

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So for those of you running a bunch of alphas, eh, this might not be a bad idea.

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Next is a very simple post by boring material.

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1891 titled, welcome to Coconut Wireless.

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It was a screenshot of the Hawaiian mesh with the farthest nodes being 400

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kilometers or about 250 miles apart.

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And now.

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This was not single hop distance, it's, using the mesh.

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To my previous point, a couple of social posts ago, geography, line

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of sight makes a huge difference.

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Basically the Hawaiian Meshtastic user group has been putting nodes up on

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volcanoes, when you're doing that, your limiting factor for range basically

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becomes the curvature of the earth.

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Maunakea on the big island I apologize if I butchered that pronunciation.

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That volcano is almost 14,000 feet tall.

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That gives you almost 150 miles to the horizon.

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Of course, you could go even farther than 150 miles.

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You're talking to another radio on another mountain, or in this case another volcano.

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So again, if you are in an area without mesh coverage or you're looking to

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improve it, getting that altitude, getting nodes up higher is gonna

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make more difference than almost anything else you could possibly do.

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And the final post from the social section is by MIBG 92 and

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the title is Nodes at Protests.

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The user was attending the largest protests in Serbia history.

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Was using Meshtastic to communicate with their wife in part because the

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government was shutting down cell service because they controlled the

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telecom companies apparently during these protests to disrupt the protestors

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ability to communicate amongst themselves.

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Now, I don't know anything about Serbia's politics.

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I don't know what's going on there.

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I have no commentary on the matter.

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As I live in the US I have.

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Our own political situation to deal with, however you

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believe that should be handled.

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But I think that this is an interesting take on a common reframe for why to use

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Meshtastic, and that's for situations where you might not have cell service.

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Now, whether it's a government instated cell shutdown or not.

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Cell service often gets overloaded when you have too many people in the

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same location that's not designed for.

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So yes, you can have 40,000 people in a sports arena and your cell phone

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service works fine because they have cell towers every hundred feet or whatever

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it is just absolutely maxing out the cell coverage in that particular space.

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For a downtown, it's probably not designed to handle 10,000, 50,000,

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a hundred thousand people in a few blocks all crammed together.

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So regardless of whether you have an authoritarian government or live in

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a country where your government is heading towards authoritarianism, you

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can still have cell issues in a protest

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anywhere, anytime that there's a lot of people gathering together, you

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might have trouble with your cell phone service and Meshtastic is a

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great option to use as a backup.

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Now, apparently Meshtastic is not super popular in Serbia at this

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time, so there's no real mesh.

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Although MIBG 92, our poster noted that they did see a few other nodes pop up.

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Even if you're not using the mesh, just a couple of nodes could help

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you in case you do get separated from the people you care about.

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To wrap up the month, even without any big blog news headlines,

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it's been a really busy month.

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As usual, I want to thank you for listening.

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Especially for those of you who made it all the way to the end of the podcast.

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As a reminder, I would love to hear from you.

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Leave a comment on YouTube post at us on Blue Sky message on Discord,

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be it feedback, comments, critiques, news stories, or even self-promotion.

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If it's Meshtastic related, I would love to hear about it.

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Obviously I've been mentioning the Bay Area mesh because that's.

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A group I'm a member of, but I would love to hear from other local meshes

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and what you are doing and what cool things are going on in your local

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regions because I think the users of Meshtastic do a wonderful job of learning

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from each other if we hear about it.

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So until next month, stay safe and keep on meshing.